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Criticism of column stands

Posted: February 26, 2013 - 4:30pm

My criticism of Mr. Bye’s writing stands. The beginning of his original Jan. 24 article makes casual reference to an article “in the Strib,” and references Congressman Tim Walz. He then touches on several different topics.

Toward the end of his article he presents his false information about the NRA rating system, making no reference to his source, no quote, no mention of the information coming from a reliable source. He did, however, slam the NRA, one of the oldest, largest and most successful advocacy organizations in the history of the United States.

Such negative commentary requires citing reliable sources, not assuming that another writer is accurate.

After reading the Jan. 24 article, I spoke with Echo management and provided accurate information and sources. I suggested Mr. Bye take the opportunity to correct his error in his next column. He did not, so I submitted the correction.

Now, in typical liberal fashion, he attacks me for correcting his error. If I may quote him, “The complex issue cries out for a more reasonable approach.”

My tongue-in-cheek suggestion to the Echo remains: Say a permanent goodbye to Mr. Bye.

Tom Lund,

Longville

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rightwingnuts
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rightwingnuts 02/26/13 - 07:02 pm
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Kerry defends (Lund), says Americans have "right to be stupid

Kerry is spot on in saying Americans have the right to be stupid, as our rightwing fringe posters and letter-writers excercise repeatedly. Freedumb!!
http://news.yahoo.com/kerry-defends-liberties-says-americans-stupid-141450112.html

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rightwingnuts 02/26/13 - 07:17 pm
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Our criticism of Lund's letter stands

Bye's point, that Lund is all whipped up about, is Bye's assertion that the extremist NRA, with their all or nothing mentality, only gave MN members of Congress "grades" of only A or F, with no B, C, or Ds used. Only one (Franken) wasn't given a "grade." Bye is right. Lund is wrong, and over tbe top...as usual.

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Sleepr2 02/26/13 - 07:49 pm
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Still waiting for the left wing extremists,,

to actually practice what they preach and tell everyhone who they work for?

And it seems that Kerry the war and tax dodging liar is defending Nutz and Jackpine too when it comes to leftwing stupidity

the only grade tax dodge Franken should be concerned about is the complete pass the MN libs gave him for dodging taxes in 17 states even after he spent years on Err Amerika radio whining about the rich ( Like him ) not payind their fair share.

So, once again Nutz and Jackpine show that without double standards they'd have no standards at all.

Sleepr2
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Sleepr2 02/26/13 - 08:04 pm
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Our Criticism?

Using the plural shows that Nutz has others doing her thinking and writing for her.

More proof of another paid Moveon shill.

rightwingnuts
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rightwingnuts 02/26/13 - 08:55 pm
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Bedtime Sleepy! Your computer privileges are over for tonight.

Sleepy, take your sleepl-time meds! Maybe you can say something even more idiotic tomorrow.

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Sleepr2 02/26/13 - 09:02 pm
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Still waiting Shill..

for the names of the companies you and your fellow extremist work for.

tjohnson
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tjohnson 02/27/13 - 08:35 am
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Nutty is dishonest.

Everyone notice how Nutty has changed the Bye's words around. Sorry Nutty your lying tactics do not work around here.

Nutty, just admit that Don Bye was wrong. Stop revising Bye's words, you lying maggot. Below are the words that Don Bye used.

"The irresponsibility of the NRA is reflected in its own rating system. All of Minnesota’s federal elected officials are rated either A or F. There is no room for grading in between, no B, no C, no D, just 10 times, either A or F."

According to Nutty's own link, only 9 of MN federal elected officials are rated (not 10). Secondly, the NRA has graded other federal elected officials B, C, and D. So obviously there is room for grading in between.

Words have meaning. We don't expect a dimwit like Nutty to use the right words, by can we please expect if from the Pine and Lakes columnists.

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tjohnson 02/27/13 - 08:40 am
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Jackpine is a clown.

Jackpine says, "Its way out of line to call a known, reputable person like Don a liar in this situation." Evidently reputable is in the mind of the beholder.

Sorry embecile jackpine, when someone posts a statement (which even Nutty proved wrong), which is clearly wrong, given a chance to correct his mistakes, and refuses to do so, that person, Don Bye, is a liar.

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tjohnson 02/27/13 - 08:52 am
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John Kerry would know about stupid!!!

Kerry defends liberties, says Americans have "right to be stupid"

Kerry Invents country of 'Kyrzakhstan'...
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/341461/kerrys-first-gaffe-kyrzakhstan-nathaniel-botwinick

Kerry's first trip over seas facing shaky start
"America's new top diplomatis already facing trouble and confusion as he begins a two-week trip"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/02/26/morning-bits-58/

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tjohnson 02/27/13 - 09:10 am
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John Kerry Unfit for Command

If anyone wants to read an interesting book about John Kerry, I suggest 'Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry'

It is amazing what a self promoting DA John Kerry is. His first purple heart was for a piece of shrapnel, about the size of a sliver, which was treated with an antibiotic and a band-aid. The shrapnel was from a grenade he fired himself, supposedly at suspected guerrillas. However, there was never any enemy fire.

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Sleepr2 02/27/13 - 09:45 am
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Still waiting Jackpine....

for the names of the companies you and your fellow extremist work for.

after all, no one should have to do business with you masters either.

Sleepr2
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Sleepr2 02/27/13 - 09:58 am
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Taxdodge Kerry being clear

"Let me be very clear about our position with respect to the Falklands, which I believe is clear. First of all, I’m not going to comment,

nor is the President, on a referendum that has yet to take place, hasn’t taken place. Our position on the Falklands has not changed.

The United States recognizes de facto U.K. administration of the islands but takes no position on the question of parties’ sovereignty claims thereto. We support co-operation between U.K. and Argentina on practical matters.

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tjohnson 02/27/13 - 10:08 am
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Now that is funny

Sleepr, that is fricking funny. LMAO.

John Kerry Saves $500,000 in Taxes By Docking 76-Foot Luxury Yacht Out Of State

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/23/john-kerry-saves-500000-b_n_656985.html

Sleepr2
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Sleepr2 02/27/13 - 10:46 am
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typical of the leftwing

They seem to ignore the tax dodging antics of their heros.

Franken failed to pay workmans comp on his employees and dodged income taxes in 17 states.

all this after whining on Err amerika that the rich don't pay their fair share, seems to me that he was talking about the guy in his mirror.

rightwingnuts
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rightwingnuts 02/27/13 - 11:07 am
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These whackjobs still believe the Swift Boat lies

The Swift Boaters and "swiftboating" has become synonymious which lying in order to slime a political opponent. Their bogus allegations were completely discredited, but that doesn't stop the radical right form still using them anyway. It just illustrates how anyone with a pulse, no matter how empty their beliefs, can cling on to such irrational, crazy beliefs.

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Sleepr2 02/27/13 - 11:13 am
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You can't be swift boated

unless you're lieing to begin with and the only ones that thiunk this is dicredited are moveron shill like youself.

kinda like being "seared" into your Christmas in Cambodia lies.

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Sleepr2 02/27/13 - 11:14 am
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BTW: Still waiting

for you and Jackpines employers names.

you hypocrite.

rightwingnuts
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rightwingnuts 02/27/13 - 11:18 am
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[filtered word] calls me a "lying maggot" for showing he is wrong

It doesn't matter whether one MN member of Congress wasn't "rated" by the NRA. The fact remains that ALL MN members of Congress who were "rated" either got an A or an F. None got a B, C or D. Despite [filtered word]'s dishonest claim, Bye never mentioned the NRAs national "ratings", which in fact are almost entirely A or F.

Bye's point was how radicalized the NRA has become and used their "rating" system as an example of their typical rightwing "all or nothing" thinking.

Despite the usual Echo whackos' claims, it was simply uncalled for to call Don Bye a liar seven times in Tom Lund's unhinged letter.

rightwingnuts
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rightwingnuts 02/27/13 - 11:23 am
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Typical of [filtered word] to rely on petty technicalities

With [filtered word] consistently defending the indefensible positions, all he can ever use to prop up his extremist beliefs are petty technicalities. His defense of Tom Lund's unhinged letter is a prime example.

Clearly, Tom Lund went too far in his irrational rage that Bye was critical of the radicalized NRA. He went over the line, and the entire septic tankfull of the Echo whackos are now doubling-down on Lund's latest example of extremist thinking.

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Sleepr2 02/27/13 - 11:31 am
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Still waiting Nutz?

for the names of your and Jackpines employers.

you seemed to have no problem asking others to do tthe same,. Or are you afraid your little landscaping business won't survive the public knowing what an extremist you are?

tjohnson
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tjohnson 02/27/13 - 11:33 am
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Nutty is a lying maggot.

Nutty, if only 9 were rated, then all 10 could not have received an A of F. As long as other Congressmen received a B, C, or D, then the NRA rating system is A, B, C, D, or F.

Words have meanings. You can choose the right words, or, as in your case, you can be a lying maggot.

Another Nutty lie, "Their bogus allegations were completely discredited."

rightwingnuts
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rightwingnuts 02/27/13 - 11:39 am
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Sleepy's employer and position at that employer

Sleepy, you are an intellectully lazy thinker. You are incapable of going outside the simplistic fragments of the rightwing script you were programmed on Faux News, rightwing hate radio. Calling us "libtards" is just one of the many foul gas emissions from Rush's lower unit. You are obvisously not very well educated and obviously don't have a very high IQ. You have difficulty even conveying a coherent thought. Based on that reality, unless you won the lottery, you cannot have done very well professionally and are not very welll off.

In other words, you are an idiot loser.

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tjohnson 02/27/13 - 11:42 am
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Words have meanings Nutty.

Nutty says, "Typical of [filtered word] to rely on petty technicalities."

Guess what embecile Nutty, those 'petty technicalities' are actually facts, which prove that you and Don Bye easily lie when it suits you.

Upon further review, Nutty is still a lying maggot.

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tjohnson 02/27/13 - 11:55 am
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Nutty lacks orginality.

Below is a correct version of Nutty's post. Most will recongnize that these character flaws were attributed to Nutty in the last few weeks, but he tries to recycle others peoples posts, and claim them as his own (much like Joe Biden).

Nutty, you are an intellectully lazy thinker. You are incapable of going outside the simplistic fragments of the left wing script you were programmed on MSNBC hate media. You are obvisously not very well educated and obviously don't have a very high IQ. You have difficulty even conveying a coherent thought. Based on that reality, you cannot have done very well professionally and are not very welll off. Even if you won the lottery, you would lose it all within a year.

In other words, you are an idiot loser.

rightwingnuts
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rightwingnuts 02/27/13 - 12:08 pm
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Per [filtered word], Bill Krystol is also a "lying maggot"

Even the Weekly standard's Bill Krystal, who says Franken was rated F must be a lying maggot:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/2008-debate-franken-tried-be-more-pro-gun-his-republican-opponent_696245.html

http://m.startribune.com/news/?id=189518481

Despite Krystal being wrong on almost everything, that doesn't automatically make him a liar.

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rightwingnuts 02/27/13 - 12:11 pm
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tjohnson
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tjohnson 02/27/13 - 12:16 pm
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Nutty is Vulgar

Clean-up your posts Nutty.

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tjohnson 02/27/13 - 12:20 pm
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Nutty is an embecile

Nutty it is you who posted that Franken was not graded according to the nytimes. What is it, are you now saying that he was graded? Which is it DA Nutty, it can't be both.

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Sleepr2 02/27/13 - 01:37 pm
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Gee, Nutz, was that last rant

just for fun or were you just avoiding posting your employers name again?

watta coward.

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