It’s not about guns;
it’s about control
I read in disgust the so-called “non”-partisan article by Don Bye in the Jan. 24 Echo.
I was amazed that in one paragraph he would be able to claim that the problem lies with the NRA and that the partisanship is on the right, and then in his last sentence he closes with an outright and — dare I say — deliberate lie about “fully automatic assault rifles.”
Mr. Bye, it has been illegal for citizens to own fully automatic guns of any kind since the 1930s and this was further defined in the ‘60s.
Now to the point. Gun control as an issue is not about producing a safer community. It is not about what works to stop individuals bent on doing harm from doing harm.
It is, however, about control. It is about control over a segment of the population that is in disagreement with an idea, or shall I say an ideal. The issue is about personal freedoms. It is about controlling the populous.
The reason that the founders (perhaps the most intellectual and intelligent men to have ever walked the planet) put the second amendment into the Bill of Rights was expressly stated over and over at the time.
Washington, Mason and Jefferson have been attributed with many quotes concerning the second amendment, all of which amount to one idea. The reason that the people have the right to be armed is for self-protection, not only from those that would do them harm, but also from their own government.
The Second Amendment is not about hunting, as Mr. Bye seems to think, and it never has been. It is about freedom and the rights of the individual.
Mr. Bye’s article does nothing to help and only serves a very partisan cause. The truth is easy to find!
Ryan Buell,
Pequot Lakes
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Add commentRyan Buell ignorantly argues that freedom should have no limits
Like the 2nd amendment including the words, "well regulated", all of our rights and privileges have limits. Just as freedom of speech must have limits, we obviously must have reasonable limits on the sort of weapons we are allowed to buy and possess.
For Buell to say that reasonable and necessary "gun control as an issue is not about producing a safer community" is as clueless as claiming that posting speed limits on roads is not about reducing accidents.
This opinion piece should have been in the Letters to the Editor
section.
And rightwingnut has a clue?
And rightwingnut has a clue? Clueless liberal....low information voters....and we wonder why this country is in the shape it is in. Good response to Byes article Doc.
And Extreme nutz ignores
My post showing how stupid he and his gungrabber pals really are when it comes to "scary" guns.
"MNCarry.org
Appears to be another successful effort in the hearings for the assault weapon and high capacity magazine ban. One of our supporters got clearance to bring in two Ruger 10/22's, one with wood hardware and the other 'dressed up' with all the assault rifle items. You could almost hear the pee hitting the floor from the gun grabbers. In the end, the chair (Paymar) seemed quite speechless, and admitted to not knowing much about guns. He asked for another demonstration so more of the members could see for themselves, as it directly pertained to the bill and items that they claimed made a rifle, an 'assault rifle'.
This needs repeating for the Nutz inclined libs
" (Paymar) seemed quite speechless, and admitted to not knowing much about guns."
"admitted to not knowing much about guns."
"admitted to not knowing much about guns."
"admitted to not knowing much about guns."
"admitted to not knowing much about guns."
Yet he's on this committee
Public Safety Finance and Policy
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Excellent letter
Excellent letter Ryan!
NoNutz, we already have limits (Laws) comin out our ass!
We gun owning Patriots have put a line in the sand, DONT CROSS IT!
Biden Lies and Nutty Believes.
From CNN
Caught on Camera: Joe Biden admits gun control will not stop mass shootings or save lives
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTyoppK_aDM
Make no mistake, the
Make no mistake, the Government wants our guns and ammo there will be resistance!
No sane American wants to see our differences settled this way… But as Democrat John F. Kennedy said so well – “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable.”
Read this as a warning to all who think they will rob American’s of their individual freedoms and liberties. Don’t misinterpret peaceful patience for cowardice or any form of consent. When the people have had enough, they will put down this evil and make an example of those who have forced this fight upon them.
The people have nothing to fear…. But politicians, lawyers and media minions sure do. They had better come to their senses before it’s too late.
Dont you find it strange Mr.
Dont you find it strange Mr. Bye doesnt post in his defence.
Maybe he knows he's wrong like the rest of the "Left hand corner".
I do believe thats called lying!
Now our POS POTUS can kill
Now our POS POTUS can kill Americans with Drones? WTF!
Bad Moon Rising!
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Time for a SWAT team to take Jaysoffhisrocker away for threats
In addition to supposedly joking that he will shoot the governor and bragging about carrying his gun in banks and schools, now he is threatening to kill fellow Americans.
Someone who posts psychotic threats like this at least needs an intervention form the authorities, and likely needs to be locked up, and prevented for possessing guns.
[filtered word] lies and Rightwingnuts calls him out
Of course the proposed moderate gun controls can't guarantee there will never be the possibility of another mass-shooting ever again! But reasonable people know it will be a step in the direction to bring more sanity in our gun laws.
Once again, [filtered word] blatantly lied in claiming that Biden said the proposed reasonable reforms won't save lives.
Nutty is an embecile.
Poor ignorant Nutty doesn't understand logic. An If/Then statement is a statement that indicates if something happens then something else will happen.
In Jay's post, if no one robs American’s of their individual freedoms and liberties. Then the American people will not have to put down the evil and make an example of those who have forced this fight upon them.
Any response is predicated on the first event happening.
For example, when the teacher told Nutty, "If you don't do your homework or pass the tests, then you will fail the class." Nutty went home crying and told her parents that the teacher said she would flunk the class.
But you are rightwing whackos to even be making threats
Get this through your angry, absolutist warped brains: NOBODY IS COMIN' TO CONFISCATE YER GUNS!!!!!!!
But you absolutist nut-jobs don't care about reality. In your "all or nothing" version of logic, reasonable minor reforms equates to complete elimination of the 2nd amendment, and you rightwing extremists are claiming that reasonable reforms is enough to threaten killing.
Then Jay, who is completely off his rocker, spouts off a threat to shoot his fellow Americans.
All you Three Stooges need to be locked up in the same cell for making unhinged threats like that. Reminds me of an old Three Stooges episode.
Again Nutty Lies
Nutty shows his dishonesty and stupidity.
CNN played two clips of Joe Biden that are contradictory. In the first and latest clip, Biden says the legislation will not fundamentally alter the the possiblity of another mass shooting. In the second clip, Biden says states that gun control will deminish the possiblity of another mass shooting.
As the CNN anchor asks, "Which is it?"
Nutty sure lives in a Nutty World!!!
Nutty is Nuts
Jay made an If/Then statement. If the first doesn't happen, then neither will the second.
It must be hard going through life without enough brains to blow your nose, Nutty.
Nut-jobs: Nobody is comin' to your bunker to take yer guns!!!
Trust me. It's only moderate gun reforms being proposed.
Extreem Nutz is still pushing his pathetic lies.
Again
from the liberal proposed gun laws .
H.F. No. 241, as introduced - 88th Legislative Session (2013-2014)
10.8(f) Persons acquiring an assault weapon by inheritance, bequest, or succession shall,
10.9within 120 days of acquiring title, do one of the following:
10.10(1) surrender the weapon to a law enforcement agency for destruction; or
10.11(2) modify the weapon to render it permanently inoperable.
10.12(g) Each chief of police and sheriff shall do the following regarding assault weapons
Nutz lied again for his masters claiming "no one is going to take your guns.
10.10(1) surrender the weapon to a law enforcement agency for destruction
10.10(1) surrender the weapon to a law enforcement agency for destruction
10.10(1) surrender the weapon to a law enforcement agency for destruction
10.10(1) surrender the weapon to a law enforcement agency for destruction
And BTW Nutz no one of going to "trust" a leftwing, Soros owned extremist like you.
Nutty is either ignorant, a liar, probably both.
In an interview with the Daily Times Herald in Caroll, Iowa, state Rep. Dan Muhlbauer said governments should start confiscating semi-automatic rifles and other firearms.
“Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option. Permitting could be an option — keep your gun but permit it,” New York Governor Cuomo, actually suggesting authorities confiscate private property that belongs to law abiding Americans.
Video: Dianne Feinstein Says Her Goal is to Disarm All Americans
http://www.infowars.com/video-dianne-feinstein-says-prepare-to-turn-in-your-guns/
Nuttz is both a liar and ignorant (and a Soros shill)
his idea of moderate is the same as exteme leftism.
I have no doubt Nutz is paid by Moveon( Soros)* to post on boards like these to try and advance the extremist agenda of the left
Fortunalty for the readers he's an example of what the real left is all about.
Hey NoNutz, READ MY LIPS.
Hey NoNutz, READ MY LIPS. Call LE on me anytime you think I'm a threat.
I've told you and yer other little Munchkins that many times but noone ever shows up.
Whats the matter NoNutz, scared to call em, HUH?
Maybe YOU should drive yer electric car up here and confront me. Never happen. Yer just a timid little Man hidin behind your Pink Keyboard.
When the people fear the government there's tyrany, when the government fears the people there's liberty.
Thomas Jefferson
Let there be Liberty!
CAUTION!
CAUTION!
EVIL CONSERVATIVE
May spout radical ideas including:
Freedom, Less Regulation, Free and Open
Markets, Limited Government, Balanced
Budgets, Minimal Taxation, Individual
Responsibilitys, Moral Absolutes, And a strict
interpretation of the Constitution
Jay, those are obviously the
Jay, those are obviously the values of wack-job radical extremists, who want to turn this country into another Somalia. LMAO
Big Johnson, did ya get my
Big Johnson, did ya get my letter from Ricky?
What an idiot!
I did see Ricky's letter.
I did see Ricky's letter. I'm glad he is your rep and not mine.
Not by choice!
Not by choice!
The supposed manifesto of a
The supposed manifesto of a fired Los Angeles police officer being sought in several slayings contained praise for President Barack Obama and gun control and disdain for the National Rifle Association in portions apparently redacted at the request of the LAPD.
Imagine that, a crazy left winger with weapons? Naw, couldnt be!
Although I am a strong
Although I am a strong supporter of the Second Amendment, I believe it was important for me to listen to those who had opposing views. I found it very disrespectful when DFL members of the committee stood up and left the committee when pro-Second Amendment citizens had their turn to testify. It was also very concerning to me that a DFL member who was chief authoring one of the gun control bills was not even present to testify for her bill and had a lobbyist testify in her place. In all of the committee hearings I’ve been a part of for over two years now, I have never seen that happen before.
Rep. Cathy Lohmer (39b)
So the coward Demmys run like little piggies just like they did in Wis.
Guess they cant handle the truth!
So God Made A Liberal...
So God Made A Liberal...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUzMPlQb2G4&feature=youtu.be
It pretty much describes Nutty.