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Posted: January 29, 2013 - 6:38pm

Mr. Bye’s article, “gun allowance,” in the Jan. 24 issue was a good discussion on the topic until his last sentence. Mr. Bye states he can “get along fine without a fully automatic high capacity assault rifle designed to kill other people.”

That was a biased statement with incorrect information.

The weapon he describes is not fully automatic, it is semiautomatic. A big difference, and only the military has the fully automatic models. They are not assault rifles because they look like the military models.

Other than looks, they operate as and have no more fire power than the common semiautomatic deer rifle. The design items that make them look like a military rifle are for functionality, which are also useful for hunters.

The shotgun used by Mr. Bye filled with five rounds of buckshot will kill more students in a classroom in far less time than the weapon he’s demonizing.

In other words, the rifles that only look like military assault rifles are no more dangerous than a common shotgun. Outlawing one weapon will not remove the risks posed by ill-intentioned people.

Everyone should watch the video prepared by Fleet Farm in Baxter. Go to YouTube and type in “Duck hunting shotgun proven to be more dangerous than a Huldra AR15.” The video will convince you.

Bob Bertram,

Pine River

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jaysoffroad
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jaysoffroad 01/30/13 - 09:01 am
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If MR Bye can get along

If MR Bye can get along without some Rifle thats fine. DONT BUY ONE THEN ya idiot!

Its not the Bill of needs its the Bill Of Rights stupid!!

Thanks for writing that letter Bob.

Here come the RWN's with the lies!

dapa2
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dapa2 01/30/13 - 10:55 am
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Right on point

Media demonizeds that evil black look of a certain semi auto weapon...hey thats discrimination! Well thats what the left would be screaming if we talked about the look or color!!!! Just like they were caught editing the testimony out in Connecticut to make it look like those in audience were heckling testifier when..... they werent!

jaysoffroad
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jaysoffroad 01/31/13 - 09:57 am
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Isnt it amazing the Liberals

Isnt it amazing the Liberals are "Pro-Choice" till we're born.

rightwingnuts
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rightwingnuts 02/03/13 - 10:05 pm
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The AL killer consumes rightwing hate radio, like you whackos

This Dykes killer in Alabama hates the government and is programmed by rightwing hate radio just like you rightwing extremist Three Stooges. We've definitely got a rightwing extremist problem.
http://news.yahoo.com/details-emerge-man-center-ala-standoff-164731458.html

Sleepr2
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Sleepr2 02/04/13 - 09:49 am
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I wonder if the extremist Nutz

can tells the class what kind of media the the killers of over 500 people in Chicago last year watch?

dapa2
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dapa2 02/04/13 - 10:26 am
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Funny RWNS....

You are basing your assumption on what, "hearsay" from a neighbor.... that's too funny! Here is the problem with your assumption. #1 Lunatics come from all political and socioeconomic backgrounds.

Ft Hood Shooter: Registered Democrat/Muslim.

Columbine Shooter: Too young to vote; both families were registered Democrats and progressive liberals.

Virginia Tech: Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff.

Colorado Theater Shooter: Registered Democrat; staff worker on the Obama campaign; Occupy Wall Street participant; progressive liberal.

Connecticut School Shooter: Registered Democrat; hated Christians

I guess we should ban something.......... good grief!

dapa2
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dapa2 02/04/13 - 10:32 am
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And before you go jumping off a cliff....

I posted the above as an example on what happens when people post things based on opinion and not fact. Lunatics are lunatics. It is not a political ideology, religion, occupation, or political class that drives a person to become mentally ill (one could argue that Democrats or Republicans are with no persuasion) and was to prove a point not report it as fact!

rightwingnuts
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rightwingnuts 02/04/13 - 11:19 am
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Dapa2's "Funny RWNS" post is dishonestly untrue - again

Dapa2 is making stuff up again. Of course mentally ill people come from all political perspectives, but considering that you Three Stooges have been mindlessly ranting and reciting radical rightwing sources which include rightwing hate radio, about your insanely paranoid gun-nut beliefs, I thought it was only appropriate to provide some documentation of the similarities of what drives this Dykes nut-job. According to the article, he is singing the same rightwing extremist anti-government tune as you Three Stooges.

rightwingnuts
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rightwingnuts 02/04/13 - 11:22 am
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Here is an excellent article on Dapa2's Oath Keepers hate group

This well-reported article provides insight into how dangerous Dapa2's oath Keepers is as a rightwing extremist whacko hate group:
http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2010/03/oath-keepers

jaysoffroad
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jaysoffroad 02/04/13 - 12:39 pm
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You Communists are the

You Communists are the dangerous ones, not the people that believe in America and the values that are goin down the drain.

Here are some average Joe's. Watch and listen closely!

http://youtu.be/BTdhVxva5KU

dapa2
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dapa2 02/04/13 - 01:34 pm
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Yes .... dangerous to Defend the Constitution...lol!

I agree its dangerous but is exactly what the oath of the President, Members of Congress, and many others take but fail to do on a daily basis, weekly and yearly basis. You have a problem supporting and defending the Constitution RWNs?

jaysoffroad
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jaysoffroad 02/04/13 - 01:37 pm
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I think the Commie gun

I think the Commie gun grabbers are gettin scared DAPA.

Are ya RWN? Ya should be! LOL

jaysoffroad
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jaysoffroad 02/04/13 - 03:21 pm
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Oh, thanks for posting that

Oh, thanks for posting that artical Nutcase.
I joined em!

rightwingnuts
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rightwingnuts 02/04/13 - 03:42 pm
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The problem is how you extremists' interpret of the Constitution

When you radicals go spouting off with your dillusional paranoia on steroids about reasonable gun regulations completely taking away the 2nd amendment and the fact that you are arming yourselves in preparation to murder some imaginary Obami commie militia fellas (murdering your fellow Americans) that you believe are comin' to get ya, rational people need to be very concerned with irrational people, like you Three Stooges, being manipulated into acting out violently or, in the case of the few extremist whackos in law enforcement positions, negligently refusing to do their jobs.

Yes, there is a very good reason why your Oath Keepers is considered to be a dangerous rightwing extremist hate group. You whackjobs are just too crazy to see it.

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jaysoffroad 02/04/13 - 03:48 pm
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Be afraid Nutty, be VERY

Be afraid Nutty, be VERY afraid!
Us crazy gun owners are comin to get ya and yer little Dog too!

Oh Oh, hear come the voices again Nutty. LMAO

“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” (Quoting Cesare Beccaria)

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Sleepr2 02/04/13 - 05:03 pm
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Poor nutz the lefty extremist.

ROFLMAO!

She proubly thinks DUh underground , Huffpo and fat Al Shultz are just centrist and well reasoned fact based newz.

Face it Nutcase you are the extremist around here.

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rightwingnuts 02/04/13 - 05:33 pm
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"You've got the guns, but we've got the numbers"

The vast majority agrees with me on every issue "discussed" here recently. You are the radical fringe, and blindly think the world revolves around your extremist "thinking." There is simply no denying it. You are complete nut-jobs.

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Sleepr2 02/04/13 - 07:42 pm
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Poor Fringe nutz that "The vast majority "

only includes all your Huffpo, Fat Al, KOSKiddies and DUh underground pals.

Out in the real world you're nothing more than another Occupy whiner.

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jaysoffroad 02/05/13 - 09:05 am
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Hide under yur bed and call

Hide under yur bed and call 911 Nutty!

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dapa2 02/05/13 - 11:10 am
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You have got to be kidding me...

1) no one is talking mur@er
2) we have a constitutional right to protect our home not from just criminals but from the tyranny of government
3) Department of Homeland Security (DHS) just raided a gun collect/dealer with no warrent, no arrests, no receipt - tell me how that is legal
4) DHS has ben buying 10s of thousands of rounds and has a bid out for new select fire 5.56 NATO arms - what for what do they need these for?
5) There is no issue until they try to confiscate what is not theirs! We will not give up our weapons used to defend our families and our homes that make us criminals for something that is Constitutionally protected. The only danger is the loss of liberty and Rights and that WILL NOT happen unless WE let it happen.

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jaysoffroad 02/05/13 - 11:24 am
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See what they unleash when

See what they unleash when they try to outlaw or take our weapons!
They aint gettin mine, someone broke in an stole em all. Dang theives!

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dapa2 02/05/13 - 11:46 am
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Ridiculous

To go after the bad guys we criminalize the good guys..... that is like confiscating yours, mine or someone elses on the way to work today get Drunk Drivers off the roads this weekend...absurd! No different!!!!!!!!

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rightwingnuts 02/05/13 - 04:35 pm
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Whackos, No black helicopters are comin' to take yer guns away!

You tin-foil hat whackos are beyond crazy!

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rightwingnuts 02/05/13 - 02:58 pm
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Dapa2 has completely lost the plot - yet again...

You use the analogy of drunk drivers. Dumb! Most DWI arrests don't involve a fatal accident, or even an accident. Like reasonable gun laws, DWI laws are intended to prevent reckless and irresponsible future behavior. It's a fact that someone caught driving drunk is significantly more likely to cause injury or death in the future.

Similarly, allowing anyone (drunks, mentally ill, criminals) to buy or shoot off ANY kind of gun, rocket-propelled grenade, or whatever, wherever they want, without reasonable regulations (as is mandated in the 2nd Amendment) is far more likely to cause injury and death. Duh!

It all boils down to living in a civilized society, and a society with everyone carrying a gun is not civilized, you idiot.

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jaysoffroad 02/05/13 - 03:05 pm
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Nutty, are you mentally

Nutty, are you mentally Retarded like our Governor?

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tjohnson 02/05/13 - 03:26 pm
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Nutty has a point

I'm conflicted. As much as I support the Second Amendment, I also support restricting Nutty's access to guns and sharp objects. LMAO.

jaysoffroad
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jaysoffroad 02/05/13 - 03:39 pm
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Dont worry Big Johnson, as

Dont worry Big Johnson, as long as he's in that straight jacket we'll be safe!

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tjohnson 02/05/13 - 03:51 pm
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Great Point Jay

Great point Jay. Nutty can't shoot from his straight jacket. If he manages to escape, as long as I have my weapons, I like my chances against Nutty.

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tjohnson 02/05/13 - 03:51 pm
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Great Point Jay

Great point Jay. Nutty can't shoot from his straight jacket. If he manages to escape, as long as I have my weapons, I like my chances against Nutty.

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dapa2 02/05/13 - 04:17 pm
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Note

Nothing the DFL have proposed in Minnesota or the President puppeted while here in Minnesota is reasonable. Nothing proposed addresses violence, gangs, criminals - it all is directed at law abiding citizens get it?

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