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Abler-Minded: The Papacy

Posted: March 12, 2013 - 6:42pm

By the time you read this, the Roman Catholic Church may already have a new pontiff. I read something to the effect that none of the conclaves over the last centuries have taken more than five days to elect a new pope. I don’t have any basis for predicting how quickly the Conclave of Cardinals will reach a decision, other than history is on the side of sooner rather than later.

What I do find most intriguing is the news coverage surrounding the selection of the next pope. The way much of the media has approached this is fascinating in their wide misunderstanding of much about the Catholic Church.

About two weeks ago, I happened to be channel surfing when I hit one of the major network Saturday morning “news” programs that had “Vatican in Crisis” displayed in bold letters at the bottom of the screen. I had to listen for a while so I could identify what they thought was a crisis. The participants were speaking about the impending election and each was pontificating about what type of pope the church needed, as though this were a political race like a presidential election. To be fair, there are politics involved in any organization, including the Vatican and Catholic Church, but what actually occurs during a conclave is secret providing plenty of fodder for the conspiracy theorists.

One of the participants offered the opinion that the church really needed a more liberal pope, so the church could become more relevant in the modern world. Whether people will admit it or not, the Catholic Church is as relevant now as it was over 2,000 years ago. Judeo-Christian morality as codified in the Ten Commandments, and the teachings in the Gospels, of the Apostles, and the traditions of the Catholic Church are all still relevant to how humans should treat one another and to interact with our environment.

As secular philosophers and their “progressive” theories have taken hold around the world, societies have turned their back on traditional decency, morality, and ethical living and lifestyles. That many other religious denominations, churches, and sects have decided that acceptance by the people rather than adherence to doctrine and morality, does not invalidate the Catholic Church’s positions and teachings.

I got more chuckles as the participants started talking about all the areas where the church needs to modernize, including contraception, abortion, celibacy, and the role of women. They even had a nun as one of the participants who ranted at length about the absence of women in the clergy and the church hierarchy. It would be nice if the media would include a knowledgeable and capable defender of the church in their discussions rather than feature only those who are unhappy for one reason or another.

Anyone who seriously thinks the Catholic Church will liberalize its position and teachings on any of these subjects doesn’t understand the traditional and biblical foundations of the church’s positions. Were the Catholic Church to make any major modifications in these areas, it would cease to be the church as I and many others know it and would probably result in a major schism of the church.

As I said, Catholic doctrines and teachings are founded on the Old Testament, oral and written traditions, and the New Testament. The earliest Catholics relied on the Old Testament, and oral and written teachings for their worship and daily guidance. As the church matured over the centuries, the books of the New Testament as we know it were written and eventually codified along with the Old Testament into the “Canon” (norm or catalog) of the Bible. Even Martin Luther grudgingly acknowledged the contribution of the papists in defining the content of the Bible.

The Catholic Church has never been perfect. That is simply the result of the human failings of the members – top to bottom. While it is easy to say the members of the clergy in any church should be far better than the rest of us, history has shown the fallacy of that thought. Popes, priests, ministers, nuns, pastors, senators, kings, queens, and even presidents have succumbed to temptations. And sometimes the results of their sins have been disastrous. It’s often been pointed out that saints are not those without sin; they are people who know just how sinful they truly are.

The Catholic Church is also not a democratic organization. The pope is the vicar of Christ on Earth. He is the ultimate earthly authority on faith (doctrine) and morals in the church. Only when he speaks on these matters are his teachings infallible; he cannot be in error in these areas. His authority extends through the cardinals, archbishops, bishops, priests and religious to everyone in the church. Not all people understand or accept this structure. Nor do all Catholics understand or accept this, much less the teachings on faith and morals. As G.K. Chesterton once observed, “Christianity has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and not tried.”

The next pope will not be another John Paul II. Neither will he be another Benedict XVI. Whoever he is, he will be the spiritual leader of 1.5 billion Catholics. Can you grasp the enormity of that responsibility?

I certainly can’t, but I am praying for the next pope and the world. They can both use all our prayers.

Well, that’s what’s been on my mind.

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Tusker 03/14/13 - 09:41 am
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Amen

Pope Francis will need our daily prayers in these tumultuous times.

jaysoffroad
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jaysoffroad 03/16/13 - 08:52 am
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I suppose you want the

I suppose you want the Catholic Church to Marry Gays too!
Oh, and maybe allow the Baby killing you Leftys call "Pro-Choice."

Keep yer powder dry!

Sleepr2
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Sleepr2 03/16/13 - 05:58 pm
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I wonder Jackpine

You laughable troll, why you keep dragging me into your pro killing and religious rants ?

I have no concern about you and your pals killing your kids and I am even less concerned about religion unless it's about having the taxpayer pay for foot baths in public places for [filtered word]s.( a prime example of liberal selective outrage)

perhaps you have me confused with someone else that thinks you're a pathetic parastic on society?

Edit: please show where I've shown any interest in religion , my only concern its the theft from the taxpayer, be it liberal hypocrites or planned parenthood or even solyndra?

you seem to make even more of an idiot of yourself then anyone here cares too.

Sleepr2
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Sleepr2 03/18/13 - 12:36 pm
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Why ask me?

I'm not a catholic , somehow you and JNutz have screwed up again by assuming I'm someone else.

Go ahead, have your religion or abort your kids, just don't expect the taxpayer to finance your lifestyle choices.

BTW still waiting for you to practice what you preach.

jaysoffroad
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jaysoffroad 03/18/13 - 12:41 pm
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Like the Constitution, Sally

Like the Constitution, Sally wants to change the rules as we go or fits his beliefs.

rightwingnuts
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rightwingnuts 03/18/13 - 02:00 pm
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These Echo Whackos latch onto a piece of script,and won't let go

They are like parrots Brrrrrp...constitution...brrrp...no taxpayer finance...brrrrrp...

Sleepr2
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Sleepr2 03/18/13 - 07:42 pm
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Parrots?

"tax the rich" AWWWWK!
"it's for the children"AWWWWK
"pay their fair share" AWWWWK
"it's not fair" AWWWWK
"the rich don''t pay their fair share.AWWWWWK!

You're beyond pathetic, not to mention a pathological lier with a blatant problem with projection.

Sleepr2
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Sleepr2 03/18/13 - 08:16 pm
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Few ,more liberal squawks

balance
1. Two liberals arguing over the rate at which government should be expanded
2. Three or more liberals who are allowed to speak freely vs. one conservative who is never allowed to utter a complete sentence
3. Two or more liberals vs. congenitally insane person passed off as a conservative

rich
1. not eligible for welfare
2. trailer home paid off
3. still has money left over after paying taxes
4. productive

invest in
1. waste money on
2. give unearned money to
3. purchase votes in

Sleepr2
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Sleepr2 03/19/13 - 09:39 am
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Well the mods did not like my reply

Must have had to much truth

the average readers
Do not see you as the "moderate" that you see in the mirror, they see a selfish liberal constantly blaming others for your station in life, perhaps you should take some responsiblity for the your own life rather than blame "the evil rich" for every problem you seem to find with this country.

rightwingnuts
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rightwingnuts 03/19/13 - 10:03 am
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Sleepy's a goner...He's coming unglued... He is in distress

He is reciting his stupid script while on auto-pilot, in complete absence of thought or reflection on what he is actually saying.

I think we are witnessing an extremely bitter, angry extremist coming unglued here.

Sleepr2
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Sleepr2 03/19/13 - 02:32 pm
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More projection

Psychology
a. The attribution of one's own attitudes, feelings, or suppositions to others: "Even trained anthropologists have been guilty of unconscious projectionof clothing the subjects of their research in theories brought with them into the field" (Alex Shoumatoff).
b. The attribution of one's own attitudes, feelings, or desires to someone or something as a naive or unconscious defense against anxiety or guilt.

Sleepr2
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Sleepr2 03/19/13 - 06:58 pm
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Yes , it is JP

But Fortunately for you and Nutz the Admin is as "moderate" ,, AKA as progressive as you and will "moderate any facts or opinions that show what an extremist you are.

Sleepr2
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Sleepr2 03/19/13 - 07:10 pm
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Another definition

Liberal is a person with liberal views. However, an EXTREME liberal is the WORST type of person.
To start with they brainwash people. Then they convince you that their pre made views they hand to you are open minded. They tell you to hate Republicans and everyone who thinks differently than you. They are the first to throw around the word racist. Most extreme liberal abuse minorities. They look for a group typically blacks or hispanics, convince them they are nothing and need the liberals to survive, then exploit them for political power. Extreme liberals are usually igorant but claim everyone else is. They pretend to be looking out for the people but are only looking out for themselves. Some day people will realize this is the truth.

rightwingnuts
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rightwingnuts 03/24/13 - 12:20 pm
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Sleepr2
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Sleepr2 03/26/13 - 10:06 am
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No JP.

it was spit on and descibes you to a T.

as does this definition..

"Tolerance:
In a free, open, and pluralistic society, there are all sorts of behaviors that we may have to tolerate, even though we don't approve of those activities. Liberals don't get this distinction. For one thing, they don't understand the difference between tolerance and acceptance. They also don't extend any of the tolerance they're agitating for to people who disagree with them. Liberals silence people who disagree with them at every opportunity which is, dare we say it, an extremely intolerant way to behave.

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